Comments on: Another Glimpse… http://menumachine.com/blog/2010/03/another-glimpse/ My name is Rob Keniger and I'm the co-founder of Big Bang Software and the lead developer of MenuMachine. This is my blog. Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:22:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Daniel Leavey http://menumachine.com/blog/2010/03/another-glimpse/comment-page-3/#comment-736 Daniel Leavey Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:49:24 +0000 http://menumachine.com/blog/?p=129#comment-736 George: I'm familiar with Flux and Coda. I wasn't aware that they worked in tandem. I don't remember seeing a reference to each other's product on their respective web sites. Can you provide a reference to using the two products in tandem? Thanks. George: I’m familiar with Flux and Coda. I wasn’t aware that they worked in tandem. I don’t remember seeing a reference to each other’s product on their respective web sites. Can you provide a reference to using the two products in tandem? Thanks.

]]> By: George Lacy http://menumachine.com/blog/2010/03/another-glimpse/comment-page-3/#comment-730 George Lacy Fri, 27 Aug 2010 17:42:29 +0000 http://menumachine.com/blog/?p=129#comment-730 I hope MenuMachine works with other web tools other than Dreamweaver. I hate DW so much I've switched to Flux -far superior in many way. Although I haven't abandoned DW completely I may if I make the final switch to Coda - which works in tandem with Flux. Looking forward to seeing it soon - regardless of what it runs in. I hope MenuMachine works with other web tools other than Dreamweaver. I hate DW so much I’ve switched to Flux -far superior in many way. Although I haven’t abandoned DW completely I may if I make the final switch to Coda – which works in tandem with Flux.

Looking forward to seeing it soon – regardless of what it runs in.

]]> By: A long time user http://menumachine.com/blog/2010/03/another-glimpse/comment-page-3/#comment-724 A long time user Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:25:19 +0000 http://menumachine.com/blog/?p=129#comment-724 Many are assuming non-performance or lack of interest on Rob's part. Maybe there are external issues that are affecting development. Give the guy a break. When it's soup, it's soup. I know in my personal life, unexpected things have occurred that have changed a business goal. Lighten up. It's only a tool, not the end of the world as you know it. :-) Many are assuming non-performance or lack of interest on Rob’s part. Maybe there are external issues that are affecting development. Give the guy a break. When it’s soup, it’s soup. I know in my personal life, unexpected things have occurred that have changed a business goal. Lighten up. It’s only a tool, not the end of the world as you know it. :-)

]]> By: Robert Cone http://menumachine.com/blog/2010/03/another-glimpse/comment-page-3/#comment-717 Robert Cone Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:07:03 +0000 http://menumachine.com/blog/?p=129#comment-717 Uri, I said that P7 didn't work for a complicated template with library use and that P7 support could not solve the situation and required five different instances for one navigation. MM worked fine in this same scenario. Get your facts straight please and don't use my statement out of context. I did mention that P7 support communicates well. Why does Rob have to be "there" for a product that isn't supported anymore? I find it funny that so many people here think Rob owes them something. I find it funny all the people who say they are going to move on, and keep coming back... And since Uri and Jason have moved on they won't be responding to this anyway.... Right? Not picking a fight, just practice what you preach and mean what you say! Uri, I said that P7 didn’t work for a complicated template with library use and that P7 support could not solve the situation and required five different instances for one navigation. MM worked fine in this same scenario.

Get your facts straight please and don’t use my statement out of context. I did mention that P7 support communicates well.

Why does Rob have to be “there” for a product that isn’t supported anymore? I find it funny that so many people here think Rob owes them something.

I find it funny all the people who say they are going to move on, and keep coming back… And since Uri and Jason have moved on they won’t be responding to this anyway…. Right?

Not picking a fight, just practice what you preach and mean what you say!

]]> By: Uri http://menumachine.com/blog/2010/03/another-glimpse/comment-page-3/#comment-713 Uri Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:02:58 +0000 http://menumachine.com/blog/?p=129#comment-713 I said I wasn't coming back...but here I am to defend Jason. No matter what else, the primary consideration here is NO COMMUNICATION from the developer. I began to feel like a fool for waiting for years with precious little info. P7 menus are working for me in spite of, as Robert Cone says, they are "not quite there," at least they ARE there. My first choice was of course MM, but a person can only wait so long. I'm not a whiner or a naysayer, I am a practitioner who had to move on. Good luck to you all. I said I wasn’t coming back…but here I am to defend Jason. No matter what else, the primary consideration here is NO COMMUNICATION from the developer. I began to feel like a fool for waiting for years with precious little info. P7 menus are working for me in spite of, as Robert Cone says, they are “not quite there,” at least they ARE there. My first choice was of course MM, but a person can only wait so long. I’m not a whiner or a naysayer, I am a practitioner who had to move on. Good luck to you all.

]]> By: Robert Cone http://menumachine.com/blog/2010/03/another-glimpse/comment-page-3/#comment-712 Robert Cone Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:31:49 +0000 http://menumachine.com/blog/?p=129#comment-712 Tango, I thought that you were not coming back according to your previous post. (see below) "Signed: Former Customer Never to return again" Glad to have your negativity here again... NOT. Maybe you should practice what you preach. Are you a competitor fan boy/troll, out to discourage hopeful MM users? Yes, it has been a long road waiting and using other options/products, it doesn't hurt for us to check back once in a while to see how Rob might be doing. Rob doesn't owe us for a future product, no one paid up front that I am aware of. Dude, lighten up some. We get it when and if we get it. Then pay for it if you still want it. Sheesh! Tango, I thought that you were not coming back according to your previous post. (see below)

“Signed:
Former Customer
Never to return again”

Glad to have your negativity here again… NOT.

Maybe you should practice what you preach. Are you a competitor fan boy/troll, out to discourage hopeful MM users?

Yes, it has been a long road waiting and using other options/products, it doesn’t hurt for us to check back once in a while to see how Rob might be doing. Rob doesn’t owe us for a future product, no one paid up front that I am aware of.

Dude, lighten up some. We get it when and if we get it. Then pay for it if you still want it. Sheesh!

]]> By: Jason http://menumachine.com/blog/2010/03/another-glimpse/comment-page-3/#comment-711 Jason Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:41:30 +0000 http://menumachine.com/blog/?p=129#comment-711 I am done. Year after year, promises of a cool product that is nothing more than screenshots. I have ben extremely patient, but you have had NO respect for your customers to keep me here. I understand projects are hard, but don't string us along, unless you know you can complete it in a reasonable amount of time. You don't even offer the respect of giving a meaningful status. There are lots of frameworks for which you could have attached, lots of options as a stopgap until you had a final, but you have given us NOTHING. No alphas, no betas, nothing beyond a screenshot and only when people get desperate to see anything. The fact is that if you wanted this to be a business, you should put it as a business priority. If you want it as a hobby, then tell us that were expecting business level products and services that you have no intention of producing such. I am normally one of the nicest people you will meet, but I have just about had it with false promises. I am done. Year after year, promises of a cool product that is nothing more than screenshots. I have ben extremely patient, but you have had NO respect for your customers to keep me here. I understand projects are hard, but don’t string us along, unless you know you can complete it in a reasonable amount of time. You don’t even offer the respect of giving a meaningful status.

There are lots of frameworks for which you could have attached, lots of options as a stopgap until you had a final, but you have given us NOTHING. No alphas, no betas, nothing beyond a screenshot and only when people get desperate to see anything. The fact is that if you wanted this to be a business, you should put it as a business priority. If you want it as a hobby, then tell us that were expecting business level products and services that you have no intention of producing such.

I am normally one of the nicest people you will meet, but I have just about had it with false promises.

]]> By: Michael http://menumachine.com/blog/2010/03/another-glimpse/comment-page-3/#comment-710 Michael Sun, 22 Aug 2010 01:12:00 +0000 http://menumachine.com/blog/?p=129#comment-710 Ouch! Ouch!

]]> By: Tango http://menumachine.com/blog/2010/03/another-glimpse/comment-page-3/#comment-709 Tango Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:33:09 +0000 http://menumachine.com/blog/?p=129#comment-709 @BRIAN BURROW You're new here right? Otherwise you'd have known not to ask Rob a question and actually expect a response. Noobie! @BRIAN BURROW

You’re new here right? Otherwise you’d have known not to ask Rob a question and actually expect a response.

Noobie!

]]> By: Brian Burrow http://menumachine.com/blog/2010/03/another-glimpse/comment-page-3/#comment-708 Brian Burrow Sat, 21 Aug 2010 14:14:00 +0000 http://menumachine.com/blog/?p=129#comment-708 Could all the whiners and naysayers please just stop? Obviously it's a tough project, especially when you look at all the other companies that have menu systems and they all suck. If all those other companies with all their other developers can't pull it off, then I for one will be first in line when MM3 comes out, because we already know the quality of the work that they do.. Even if it's not on OUR schedule. Rob, do you know how easy it will be to integrate the new menus into WordPress pages? I've switched most of my sites from Dreamweaver over to WordPress. I still use DW to customize them, but I rarely 'build' the sites with DW anymore. Adobe took all the fun out of it. Thanks, Could all the whiners and naysayers please just stop? Obviously it’s a tough project, especially when you look at all the other companies that have menu systems and they all suck. If all those other companies with all their other developers can’t pull it off, then I for one will be first in line when MM3 comes out, because we already know the quality of the work that they do.. Even if it’s not on OUR schedule.

Rob, do you know how easy it will be to integrate the new menus into WordPress pages?

I’ve switched most of my sites from Dreamweaver over to WordPress. I still use DW to customize them, but I rarely ‘build’ the sites with DW anymore. Adobe took all the fun out of it.

Thanks,

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